“I Don’t Know What the Rules Are”

(episode 2)

 GIANA: It’s The Broadly Entertaining Podcast. We’ve got fun, games and feminism comin’ at ya. Thanks for letting us entertain you.

[playful ukulele theme music]

JAMIE: Hello everyone, hello hello! Welcome to The Broadly Entertaining Podcast. I am Jamie and I… would like to be on another game show. Joining me on this broadcasting journey is my co-host, business partner and best friend, a talented woman capable of introducing herself.

GIANA: Aw, thank you Jamie I am Giana and I thought my voice got lower because of my age but perhaps not, perhaps not. This is The Broadly Entertaining Podcast for all you Femme Broads, Them Broads and Dude Broads out there. Let's—pow pow pow pow!—party!

[ukulele reprise with a whistle coda]

JAMIE: Yes yes yes yes! I am all the kinds of excited energy to be here with you right now. We are recording on Friday, March 4th and it has been quite the couple of weeks… and years!

GIANA: Sure has, sure has; and good thing, I guess, we're not a news show. We're a party place.

JAMIE: A-men. Amen. So let's have some fun today 

GIANA: Yeah. I like fun.

JAMIE: Yeah I know you do. You love the fun. [Giana laughs] You recently took a trip that I'm assuming was fun; it required a passport.

GIANA: Yeah, it was, uh, our third year attending Phish in Mexico—the band Phish, in Mexico—and it's a wonderful privilege and Colin and I are very very thankful that we get to do this every year with our family, and spend some really good quality time with some really good quality people. I met wonderful folks while there and I learned a little bit about myself and my relationship with, not just Phish, but with going to concerts in general. This is like, a really ideal place to see a concert for me. I mean, well, for a lot of people, for obvious reasons. It's on the beach in Mexico, you're in uh… you get your toes in the sand while Trey is doing Sand (it’s a song). 

[Jamie laughs] 

GIANA(cont’d): Anyway, it's really great and, uh, but I learned that even before COVID times I was never that big of a fan of crowds, right? Like it was never something I really enjoyed, being in crowds, and so that has certainly not gotten any better over the last couple of years. So this concert is a really great one for me. I get to have a lot of space, I don't feel like I'm too crowded inside at like, say, MSG for example—that’s how that feels. 

JAMIE: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

GIANA: And so it's a really lovely way to experience the band, and the fans as well. I also learned, I feel like a little bit like a guest in the House of Phish, in a way. Like I'm new to the band, I don't know the music as well as literally every single person around me. 

[Jamie laughs]

GIANA (cont’d): It seems like they all know every word and they're just like, high-fivin’ and throwin’ the glow sticks and having a great time at the right time every time. 

JAMIE: They know all the cues, yup, all the singalongs. 

GIANA: All the things, yeah so— and I know you've been to a, you've been, you've seen Phish before once with your brothers, right?

JAMIE: Yes, once. It was a show at Madison Square Garden, and I, they wanted— oh, and I also went to their first last festival at Coventry in Vermont that got rained out and it was a whole muddy hippie fest, and it was just not personally a great experience for me. Which had absolutely nothing to do with the band or the music—

GIANA: Right.

JAMIE: It just turned out to not be a great weekend for Jamie. [laughing]

GIANA: You know that the fans are just, they are— they love Phish. They're— There's— They have statistics, and they count how many shows they go to and it's a really really cool thing, this like, environment of people and I had just a really lovely time and I got to know myself a little bit better in it and I'm feeling like I can take a little, just a tiny bit more ownership in the space now and I'm feeling a little more comfortable every show, so— Yeah, anyway, it was a really lovely time and shout out to all the Mexi-hoes. It was a lot of fun with all of you and thanks for, if you listen to this, thanks for being a great time. We played games. We played dominoes and casino, with cards and things. It was a lot of fun.

JAMIE: Awesome, it sounds like fun. And I just want to clarify, in case anyone is like, You've done this for three years in a row? Don't you know what the world has been?, that your three years were not—

GIANA: No. 

JAMIE: —the last three years, specifically.

GIANA: That is true.

JAMIE: Which may have been clear. You mentioned, we've been in a pandemic.

GIANA: [laughs] That’s true. It was just the first one back in a while, that is true.

JAMIE: There you go.

GIANA: Yes. Yes, yes.

JAMIE: Well then good! I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm glad it was fun and that you got a chance to—pun totally intended—dip your toes back in.

GIANA: Yeah! Yeah it was great. Had a lot of pot gummies.

[echo sound effect on “a lot of pot gummies”]

JAMIE: Oh, that’ll get you through a beach weekend, sure.

GIANA: That sure will, sure will. Get you right through sitting at pools. But I'm sure you also got yourself into some trouble while I was away… [ukulele strum]

JAMIE: Oh I don't know. Somebody's gotta be the responsible one, Giana. 

[both laughing]

GIANA: Nah, come on…

JAMIE: Gotta keep the boat running! Um, yeah, you know, I stuck around Austin. Got some warm days. We are, I guess, coming out of the time of year when this part of Texas has like a fight between winter and summer— or, I mean, I guess spring, but spring gets hot; it gets hot real fast, so, the fight between the cold and the warm weather, so took advantage of those warm days and went on some really nice hikes. There are a couple of off-leash places I like to take Barnaby, so that's cool. Yeah, and um, mostly did some nesting, some home decor. 

GIANA: Yeeeaaah… 

JAMIE: Hung up some pictures with the mister and… Oh I rearranged furniture and I— Yeah! I just feel like I— You know, I don't know how I did it or what the rules are but I definitely improved the feng shui of my living-room-slash-office.

GIANA: Awesome.

JAMIE: I now have more room around the desk. There's more room in the living room, period. There's a little plant corner, which is nice. A little green space; I get to keep an eye on my plant babies, that are all doing pretty, pretty well. I'm proud of them. I’m proud of me, for not killing all of them, so…

[Giana laughs]

JAMIE (cont’d): I also have not kept every single plant alive.

GIANA: Well, I'm proud of you, too. I am also learning and it's, you know— You gotta listen to the plants. It’s a new language you have to learn—

JAMIE: Yeah!

GIANA: —and every plant speaks its own language.

JAMIE: It's true. It's true, you gotta figure out which ones can live together… And then I'm also learning about— you know, speaking of that balance between the hot and cold, the pull and push—

GIANA: Mm-hmm.

JAMIE: When we have winter weather down here and I have plans that are outside, I have to bring them inside which means I also have to have, like, room for a setup to bring all the outdoor plants indoors. Which has been— is interesting, it’s never something I did. I mean, any plant house plants I had in New York had to live inside 'cause I had no outdoor space to speak of that I could put plants in to begin with, so…

GIANA: Yeah.

JAMIE: But yeah, it's interesting, when it gets too cold for too long gotta bring the plant babies inside.

GIANA: Aw, ohhh… I like having plants. I like being surrounded by plants. I'm glad I moved to the forest.

JAMIE: Yeah, there you go.

[both laugh] 

JAMIE (cont’d): I got a couple new lamps in my decorating last week and one of the lamps has, like, leaves and small flowers painted on it, but it's a very leafy design, so that is of course now the lamp that’s in the plant corner—

GIANA: Obviously.

JAMIE: —so, 'cause I also read a while back that seeing pictures of nature is—you know, if you are not able to get out into nature in actuality—being surrounded by that kind of imagery has a similar effect on your brain and your wellness and it can help soothe you and calm you, so, got the real plants, got the plant on the lamp plant—

GIANA: Yeah…

JAMIE: Plant lamp.

GIANA: Plant lamp.

JAMIE: Yeah…

GIANA: Well, that sounds like a lot of fun! I love redecorating. It feels really good to redecorate, so I love— even if it's just rearranging furniture and stuff, it's just the best. I love that feeling. 

I mentioned before that we played some games in Mexico [ukulele music starts quietly in background] and I thought that I might bring one of them to this very podcast episode…

JAMIE: Yeah!

GIANA: Yeah!

[They laugh. Ukulele fades out.]

JAMIE: Bring it confidently, Giana! 

GIANA: Yes! I would love to bring it to this podcast episode! I played an old favorite with the amazing Bella and Zach by the pool and we should take a crack at it! Let's do it. Are you in the mood to rhyme, Jamie?

JAMIE: [gasp] I am never not in the mood to rhyme, Giana.

GIANA: Well that's perfect. [both laugh] You want to play a few rounds of I'm Thinking of a Word, but like, two person and rapid fire style?

JAMIE: Do I?!

GIANA: Do you??

JAMIE: I do!

GIANA: Well then I now pronounce you responsible for explaining the game.

[Ukulele returns quietly in the background]

JAMIE: Oh I see what you did there, okay, okay. We have already established that I'm Thinking of a Word is rhyme-based, it is a rhyming game. I will start the game by thinking of a word and telling you a word that that word rhymes with. You then try to guess the word I'm thinking of, in as few attempts as possible, by finding other words that rhyme with that word. But of course it would be too easy for you to just list rhyming words, so instead you will give an example or a definition or the words that come to your mind that explain the word that you are trying to guess. And then we'll swap places and I'll try to do the same thing with fewer attempts. So, let's start with single syllable words— Oh, we have to keep track—

GIANA: Yup.

JAMIE: —of how many…

GIANA: I could tally for both of us.

[ukulele picks up volume and tempo]

JAMIE: Aw, thanks buddy.

GIANA: I got your back, Jamie!

JAMIE: Alright, well let's do it then! 

[Ukulele ends with a flourish]

JAMIE (cont’d): I am thinking of a word that rhymes with: hot…

GIANA: Is it something that you might sleep on while camping?

JAMIE: It's not a cot…

[short ukulele chord]

GIANA: Is it what fruit does when it’s been sitting out and it's off the vine?

JAMIE: Oh, it is not rot…

[short ukulele chord]

GIANA: Oh, um, Wacko and the little sister was…

JAMIE: Ha! It is not Dot.

[short ukulele chord]

GIANA: Is it the little place where you would put mail in a door?

JAMIE: It is not slot…

[short ukulele chord]

GIANA: Is it what I have, it's what I've—

JAMIE: It is not got.

[short ukulele chord]

GIANA: Is it, uh, when it's just meant to be a disaster, it's meant to go wrong, it is a plan that is, uh… it's got a lot of hiccups and trials in it, and it’s uhh…

JAMIE: It's not… besot?

GIANA: [laughs] No! No, okay, I'm gonna scratch that one. [short ukulele chord] 

Is it…  is it what blood might do?

JAMIE: Oh, it is not clot.

[short ukulele chord]

GIANA: Is it what something… It is, or it is—

JAMIE: It is not not.

[short ukulele chord] [both laugh]

GIANA: Or the what you do to ropes.

JAMIE: It is not k-not. 

GIANA: [laughing] Is it where you might park your car in a parking—

JAMIE: Oh, it is not lot.

[short ukulele chord]

GIANA: Um, is it a brand of applesauce?

[both giggle]

JAMIE: It is not Mott.

[short ukulele chord]

GIANA: Oh, is it the stuff you smoke? You can put it in, roll it in a joint.

JAMIE: Oh, it is not pot!

[short ukulele chord]

GIANA: Um, is it a small child?

JAMIE: Oh, it is not tot.

[short ukulele chord]

GIANA: Ummm…

JAMIE: Can I pause, I'm gonna give you a hint ish?

GIANA: Okay, is it a very fancy boat, though?

JAMIE: It is a yacht!

[celebratory ukulele chords]

GIANA: Yaaaay! A yacht!

JAMIE: You got it! Yay!

GIANA: I got it in 14 guesses.

JAMIE: Fourteen, okay. The single syllable round, I guess, arguably not necessarily an easier one—

GIANA: Not necessarily!

JAMIE: —because you have more potential words to choose from.

GIANA: That's right. Alright! I'm thinking of a word and it rhymes with: fault.

JAMIE: Is it… something you pair with pepper?

GIANA: It is salt!

[celebratory ukulele chords]

JAMIE: Oh my god! // GIANA: Yaaay!

GIANA: Good job, Jamie!

JAMIE: Thanks! Did you make it easy?

GIANA: I did not make— I mean, I guess I could have switched ‘em. Alright, well let's— let’s get harder, let's take it up a notch, shall we? Let's do two-syllable words. I'll go first. I'm thinking of a word and it rhymes with: forget.

JAMIE: Hmmm… Does it rhyme with both syllables of forget? 

GIANA: Uhh… no.

JAMIE: Well damn. That's uh… I got a question for the judges. Okay.

GIANA: Okay, you are 13 points ahead.

[Jamie laughs]

JAMIE: Is it… Is it a short way to describe someone who is straight and identifies with the gender they were assigned at birth?

GIANA: Cis-het?

JAMIE: Cis-het, yeah. Is it cis-het?

GIANA: It is not cis-het.

[short ukulele chord]

JAMIE: I am blank, by the way. Right now my brain is empty of words, which is kind of a feat for me.

[Giana laughs. Jamie tries to think of a word.]

GIANA: I'll give you a hint if you want one.

JAMIE: Is it— Well let me just ask you, is it a single word and not two words?

GIANA: Yup, yes. It’s a single word, two syllables.

JAMIE: Is it, uh, is it a word famously misspelled on bad tattoos? If somebody has no—

GIANA: No it is not regret, but it almost was, but it is not.

[short ukulele chord] 

JAMIE: Ha! Okay, okay. Um… I'll take a hint now. [laughs]

[ukulele starts to play in background]

GIANA: I mean, I'm scared maybe that we have different rules in our heads. But I'll give you the hint anyway and then maybe it'll help you, and maybe we'll meet in the middle just like we can be known to do. The first letter of it happens in the second half of the alphabet.

[ukulele music ends]

JAMIE: Okay… ah ha! …Okay. Um, is it… Is it an old fancy dance, or perhaps also kind of musical arrangement? [pause] A minuet?

GIANA: Oh! [counts syllables] Min-u-et. No!

[they laugh]

JAMIE: Hey man, I had to dig for an extra syllable just to find the ending. Okay so then it's also not pirouette.

[short ukulele chord] 

GIANA: Nope. But thinking about foreign lands is a good place to be; [ukulele returns to background] not necessarily in different language but definitely a different… place.

JAMIE: [long pause] Is it a proper noun? I'm changing this to 20 Questions. [laughs]

GIANA: I love it. Let's do it. We make the rules, Jamie, we make the rules. Yes, it is a proper noun.

[tension building ukulele music, ending during Jamie’s next question]

JAMIE: Oh! Is it where the Dalai Lama is from?

GIANA: It is Tibet! 

[celebratory ukulele chords]

JAMIE: Yeah! Alright. Well that was tough. I— I guess probably— that’s— I did the equivalent of 14 guesses, at least—

GIANA: At least.

JAMIE: —with all the ways, we gave me hints, changed the rules…

GIANA: I'll be honest, I stopped counting because I was just so in our conversation and I was like, You know what? You're gonna edit this later, you can count—

JAMIE: Oh man…

GIANA: —out later.

JAMIE: Lettin’ the secrets out!

[Giana laughs]

JAMIE (cont’d): We're open here. If nothing else, we're open and honest.

GIANA: Absolutely.

JAMIE: Alright, well, I still have a word for you— 

GIANA: Oh yay!

JAMIE: I still have a two syllable word, and now you have an idea of the kind of rhyming I'm putting on the table, I think. So I'm thinking of a word and it rhymes with our friend Charlie!

GIANA: Is it an ingredient that you would have in a soup that is paired with beef?

JAMIE: It sure is barley!

[celebratory ukulele chords]

GIANA: Yay! I think it's a tie Jamie, we— I think it's a total tie.

JAMIE: Ohh, yay! That was fun. That was fun. Thanks for rhyming and changing the rules with me.

GIANA: Yeah, sure, of course.

JAMIE: Yeah, sure!

You know, all this wordplay and rule making and guessing things reminded me of something else fun that I did while you were out of town, which is that I sent in an application to be a contestant on $100,000 Pyramid. Yeah, you know that game show!

GIANA: I do! That's fun!

JAMIE: So I have been, you know, beating myself up, as you do over game show submissions… [laughs]

GIANA: Yeah…

JAMIE: But one thing I did get to talk about a bunch is weddings, and how I am an ordained minister and love to officiate weddings!

GIANA: Weddings! Yes! We didn’t talk about weddings at all during our first episode, in our rendition of Storytime Half Life, but of course there's only so much that we can fit into that one minute of telling our entire history together, of course.

JAMIE: Yeah! Especially since both of our histories with weddings actually precede our time together as a business.

GIANA: Yes.

JAMIE: Yeah, for me it's just a few years. You were around when I got ordained, but for you, your relationship to weddings goes back again to childhood. Another episode one callback—childhood!

GIANA: Yeah! My mom is and was a wedding DJ, and so I would go with her to a lot of gigs and I would watch her make the announcements and I'd help her lug all the gear; it was a lot of gear back then you can— I mean it's still a lot of gear now but it's a lot less than it used to be. And then, you know, shortly— like once I got, like— one of my first friends got married, I remember they were having a rehearsal and nobody was running it and, you know, as you guys now we come from theater backgrounds and I just like could not handle that nobody was running this rehearsal properly [Jamie laughs] and I just like, sort of butted my way into my friend Laura's wedding rehearsal and was like, this needs to happen. And then from there I like offered it to other friends and I've done it just kind of naturally as a thing just to do. And then I married a DJ [laughs].

JAMIE: Sure did.

GIANA: Yeah, and so now he and I can be quite the wedding duo 'cause he doesn't like to make announcements and I'm a ham! 

JAMIE: Yeah, it's a great balance!

GIANA: Yeah!

JAMIE: Well received, thus far, every time it has been put out there.

GIANA: Yeah… but your official entry into the wedding realm also has a familial connection, right?

JAMIE: It does indeed. I was ordained by the Universal Life Church, as perhaps some of our listeners have also been—

GIANA: Me too! Woo woo! // JAMIE: —as are you,

JAMIE (cont’d): Yeah! And your husband!

GIANA: Yes! 

JAMIE: Absolutely. So I was ordained in 2014, so that I could have the honor of presiding over my brother and now sister-in-law’s wedding, which was a wonderful experience overall. It was [falsely overcome with emotion] so nice to be asked and I learned so much and [returning to regular speech pattern] you were my date—

GIANA: I was! // JAMIE: So it was a fun weekend!

GIANA: It was! It was a really nice weekend; we had a lovely time.

JAMIE: Yeah! It's been really nice to see our wedding business expand, even as we are in different places now, or perhaps especially as we are in different places now. And, ya know, as everybody knows, the wedding industry is exploding this year!

I don't know if that's a thing everybody knows but that is a thing.

GIANA: More weddings booked this year since 1984.

JAMIE: Mm.

GIANA: Mm-hmm.

JAMIE: I know that one wedding that you did recently is one of your favorites.

GIANA: Yes! I had a wedding here in The Catskills, at uh— This lake that I live nearby freezes over during the winter, so you can just like, walk right out to the middle of it—people ice fish, they drive their trucks out to the middle of it—so I got to marry a couple right there in the middle of a frozen lake! It was so cold outside, it was 10 degrees, and it was just a really lovely experience. It was just an elopement—I love elopements, just like, two people just sharing their love. They had never seen snow before and they decided to get married in the middle of a snowy Winter Wonderland—

JAMIE: Amazing.

GIana: That was definitely my favorite wedding so far.

JAMIE: Yeah, and in true elopement fashion, it was you, the two of them, and a photographer who was their witness.

GIANA: No, and Colin was the witness!

JAMIE: Oh, okay, okay.

GIANA: Yeah, my husband came out and did the whole thing. He just like, stood there and was like, “Yep.” Watching, stood out of the pictures, stood out of the way. Just made sure he was— stayed like a reasonable distance, freezing cold. 

But speaking about photographers and getting out of shots I know that we’ve learned some lessons along the way.

JAMIE: Yes, absolutely. You know, back when I officiated Evan and Kim's wedding, it didn't even cross my mind to have an awareness of my physical presence and basically to get out of the way of pictures that I didn't need to be in, you know? When it’s vow time, you gotta step to the side. When it's kiss time, you gotta step to the side. An amazing photographer will probably be able to find an angle where you are kind of blocked by the bodies of the guests of honor, but, how much easier and just better handled is it for everyone involved if one has learned the lesson that you gotta step offstage?

GIANA: It’s true!

JAMIE: Yeah, you can re-enter if you have to.

GIANA: Exactly.

JAMIE: There ya go.

I think it's time now for our two-time favorite ongoing segment, BE…

GIANA: A Feminist! B-E a Feminist!

[BE a Feminist intro theme with whistling and simple percussion]

GIANA (cont’d): Jamie and I are going to bring some news and reviews from the week, or that we just recently learned, to share with each other and with all of you. Jamie, I went first last time, you should go first this time.

JAMIE: Yes, I am ready to go first. I have two because I was worried that one may be the one that you brought so I wanted to have another option—

GIANA: Okay!

JAMIE: —so I'm going to open with the other option and then I will tease the second one so that if it is the one that you brought, that'll be a lead-in to you.

GIANA: Okay.

JAMIE: Alright, so, I listened to another podcast episode today, from Dallas public radio, they have a show called Think and there was an interview with Zoe Marks who is a Harvard poli sci and social science professor and academic who recently published an article in Foreign Affairs called, Revenge of the Patriarchs: Why Autocrats Fear Women. I haven't read the article yet, so far I just listened to the podcast episode which cued me into this article’s existence, but it basically talks about the ways that women worldwide since 1945 have stood up against authoritarians and the way that authoritarian governments use sexism and misogyny as part of the authoritarian game plan. Like, it's not— they're not just things that work well— “They work well together!” 

GIANA: Mm-hmm.

JAMIE: They're things that are actively used by people trying to maintain power in an autocracy. So there are some really inspiring things about women who have used nudity to protest and to stop military action. You know, and then we've all heard stories about using things like song and flowers, and then there are also examples of women being involved in violent protest, but for the most part women get involved in nonviolent pro-democracy movements, and it's important to have women and men working together. It is important to have women and men of all different backgrounds working together, because obviously the more the citizenry can be as one against an authoritarian ruler, the more likely they are to have success and not come under the dictatorship, which is something that feels relevant to a lot of people in the world today. 

GIANA: Right now, yeah…

JAMIE: There are a lot of really amazing swings toward progress and feminism being the norm, but as with everything there is that push and pull, so we are in an amazing time and we are in a very difficult time and it was just really, it was really interesting. So if you want to listen to the podcast episode, it is KERA’s Think out of Dallas and it’s Why Strong Women Scare Autocrats, and the Foreign Affairs article (which of course we will link to) is Revenge of the Patriarchs: Why Autocrats Fear Women. And I just want to share that with people and read about the amazing things that women can do and have done. 

And if you're BE a Feminist tidbit is not about a recent Supreme Court nominee, my second one is.

GIANA: It is not. It is not. It is about our menstrual cycles, actually. I found— a good buddy of mine, Kat Reinhert, came up here recently to help me song-write. She is a doctor in music, and she's just an amazing person, but she's a singer and knows a lot about the voice and she brought up how birth control changed her voice. And I was like, “What?” It all kind of makes sense that hormone therapy drugs might have something to do with the way that your voice can change. We know that just from puberty alone and how your voice changes during those times, but it got me kind of digging a little further into the voice and hormone levels, and I wanted to share this peer reviewed paper that was written by Jennifer Rodney and Robert T. Sataloff that kind of touches on it. And we could of course link and share this, but just a couple of things that stuck out to me in this paper is that vocal symptoms known as dysphonia premenstrualis accompanied better known symptoms, such as PMS, so the most common symptoms of dysphonia premenstrualis are difficulty singing high notes, decreased flexibility, huskiness, fuzziness, breathiness, decreased volume, difficulty bridging passaggios, and intonation problems. 

So, what I found really interesting about this is when I stopped using birth control my voice got a lot lower and I just figured that it was because I was getting older, but there is research out there that suggests that they may be linked and that they may do irreversible… changes to women's voices. Just by being on birth control for a few months they can do this— it's hard to say damage because it's— it just kind of changes your voice, but this damage that can last your whole life. 

[Ukulele music coming up in the background]

GIANA (cont’d): So I'm excited to share this paper with folks and if this is something that interests you… I think you’ll find it interesting! [laughs]

JAMIE: Yeah, it sounds interesting! We will drop that link, of course, in the show notes. 

And then as I was nodding to earlier, shout out to Ketanji Brown Jackson for being the first Black woman nominated to the United States Supreme Court, and may she soon be the first woman to sit on that bench.

GIANA: Yes. 

Thank you all for tuning in. Check the show notes for links, a transcript of the episode, or more information on Broadly Entertaining events and offerings mentioned in today's show. The Broadly Entertaining Podcast is written, produced and edited by Giana DeGeiso and Jamie Rosler of Broadly Entertaining. Theme music written and performed by Giana DeGeiso. You can always find out more at Broadly Entertaining [dot] com and follow us on Instagram, [at] Broadly Entertaining. Thanks for joining us, Broads. We'll talk to you again soon! Buh-bye…

JAMIE: Bye…

[ukulele theme at full volume; it ends and is followed by an outro jingle]

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